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Dag Z · Jan 15, 2010, 07:01 AM // 07:01

Tired of useless pug runs? Well do we have the answer for you! This new FoWSC is easy to run for pugs, less fail.. and more backup! Oh, did I mention it is faster than Manlyway?! Try out this new build with friends, guildies, or pugs and be sure to comment problems and success! Oh and screenshot if possible. Now, I will explain the builds.. Basically what is going to happen is, we have a MT (main tank), T1 (terra 1), T2 (terra 2), W1 (Earth shaker), UA (Unyielding Aura), E1 (elementalist 1), E2 (elementalist 2) and an EoE (Edge of Extinction). The T1/T2/MT do the same job, while the Earth shaker jumps in when the main tank has the group(s) ready, pings Earth shaker, then the E1/E2 pop in, spike and bam. This has proved more sufficient with pugs, and is more safer (LESS FAILS!) Here are the builds, give it a try:

~ Main Tank (MT) ~
For this, you will round up the groups for the main team.

Temple Code: OwZjkwf84Q8I6MfV5i8Q0kpZ4OA

~ Runes ~
(x5) Radiant Insignias
(x3) Rune of Attunement
(x1) Rune of Superior Shadow Arts (+3)(+1)
(x1) Rune of Superior Vigor

~ Terra 1 (T1) ~
For this, you will do quests: Army of Darkness, Slaves of Menzies, and Tower of Strength.

Template Code: OwZTkY/8ZiHRnBZIXkHKVkzD3BA

~ Runes ~
(x5) Blessed Insignias
(x3) Rune of Attunement
(x1) Rune of Superior Shadow Arts (+3)(+1)
(x1) Rune of Superior Vigor

~ Terra 2 (T2) ~
For this, you will do quests: Seeds of Corruption, The Hunt, and Khobay The Betrayer.

Template Code: OwZTkY/8ZiHRnBZIXkHKVkzD3BA

~ Runes ~
(x5) Radiant Insignias
(x3) Rune of Attunement
(x1) Rune of Superior Shadow Arts (+3)(+1)
(x1) Rune of Superior Vigor

~ Warrior 1 (W1) ~
For this, you will ping for spikes, and the main knockdown for main team.

Template Code:OQcTM5K/H6qA3hnQsAAgUMVEuEA

~ Runes ~
(x1) Knight Insignia
(x1) Stonefist Insignia
(x1) Rune of Superior Vigor
(x1) Rune of Superior Absorption
(x1) Rune of Vitae
(x1) Rune of Superior Hammer Mastery (+3)(+1)
(x3) Survivor Insignias

~ Elementalist 1 (E1) ~
For this, you will shadow step on the target W1 pinged, and use your skill bar from in numerical order.

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Template Code: OgdTkYG/HyYIVku0VIsiUMbYJCA

~ Runes ~
(x1) Rune of Superior Vigor
(x1) Rune of Superior Earth Magic (+3)(+1)
(x3) Rune of Attunements
(x5) Radiant Insignias

~ Elementalist 2 (E2) ~
For this, you will shadow step on the target W1 pinged, and use your skill bar from in numerical order.

Template Code: OgdTkYG/HyYIVku0VIsiUMbYJCA

~ Runes ~
(x1) Rune of Superior Vigor
(x1) Rune of Superior Earth Magic (+3)(+1)
(x3) Rune of Attunements
(x5) Radiant Insignias

~ Unyielding Aura (UA) ~
For this, you will need to follow main team at a distance, and heal.

Template Code: OwYTomGDZqBcjY6TiIH8jAZghAA

~ Runes ~
(x1) Rune of Superior Vigor
(x1) Rune of Minor Healing Prayers
(x1) Rune of Minor Divine Favor
(x2) Rune of Attunements
(x5) Survivor Insignias

~ Edge of Extinction (EoE) ~
For this, you will need to keep spirits up at all times and follow main team at a distance.

Template Code: OAKkYhgpITOEGz1U5E5E1D0BN4FD

~ Runes ~
(x1) Rune of Superior Vigor
(x1) Rune of Communing
(x3) Rune of Attunements
(x5) Survivor Insignias

Thanks for visiting our thread!! Hope you like it!

[Hateway] FoWSC Made By: Dag A and Dag Z. (In-game names)
It's called hateway since everyone likes manly, and refuses to try this.
Please comment any problems or success'.
NOTE: You will need a conset.

~~ Enjoy ~~

mathiastemplar · Jan 15, 2010, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Looks awesome:P

The_Pr0slayer · Jan 15, 2010, 08:29 AM // 08:29

Ooooh, dady like!

nice build, will definitely give it a try or seven.... (i like the whole earthshaker idea.)

i love 2 things about this build.... it has just enough damage to take anything out and it doesnt have any shitty 100b inside

good job!

cheers

EDIT:

Also warriors could be a bit better imo.... not that im trying to be bitchy but being an assassin is really wastefull.... you could use any other profession and still use ebon escape that heals the perma too, ya know? i actually recommended this to the official pvx guys and they shut me down coz the thought its some hax or whatnot... id remove lod and do escape instead, then you can followup with any nice combo from other professions... i will post ideas when i get any... im just saying...

Same goes for eles and thats just because they dont have 3 pve skill allready

(you could remove lod from warr bar and give ebon escape for death charge and: maybe crude swing for maximum damage? the other slot is optional for any toolbox skill, no? )

anyways, just my suggestions

cheers

Page Down Warhammer · Jan 15, 2010, 08:41 AM // 08:41

Definitely going to try this!

Para Scar · Jan 15, 2010, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Why give the warrior a bad build while it is able to solo spike with just a MoP and EoE?

And faster?
Show me plz.

Pugs fail in whatever build you give them...

deluxe · Jan 15, 2010, 08:44 AM // 08:44

Unless you get a perfect MT sin, the normal fowsc probably will be faster, since the 2 100b warriors can kill stragglers faster.
Also, earthbind? Why?

Page Down Warhammer · Jan 15, 2010, 09:03 AM // 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by deluxe

Unless you get a perfect MT sin, the normal fowsc probably will be faster, since the 2 100b warriors can kill stragglers faster.
Also, earthbind? Why?

Earthbind is for the 3 second knockdown, but that could be made up for with stonefist's insinia's

deluxe · Jan 15, 2010, 09:29 AM // 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Page Down Warhammer

Earthbind is for the 3 second knockdown, but that could be made up for with stonefist's insinia's

I was more like a rhetorical question.

Hells Fury · Jan 15, 2010, 09:38 AM // 09:38

What if aggro breaks? It can happen and i think manly way has better chance to clean up the mess then this. I don't think it's faster also.

Teknikaali · Jan 15, 2010, 10:02 AM // 10:02

I really like this idea, but in my opinion FoWSC pugs fail because of MT, T1 or T2 failing at doing their respective jobs. And what Darkblight said, aggro breaking?
Good job recreating the main team though, more beautiful elementalists, less hairy manly warriors in my fowsc ^^ Now I'd like to see you replace those perma sins with something else..

*looks forward for the big nurfnurf*

Oh, and good thing you didn't include any pve-skills for the Rt.. I've seen _so many_ Rt's out there with 'worse' builds than the Tecnhobabble+YMLaD-combo. You could replace Earthbind with some optional skill though.. o_O

Just my 10 cents.

Turk The Legendary · Jan 15, 2010, 10:16 AM // 10:16

A good variation and maybe something to kill boredom? Yes

Better and faster than manly way? No

And ill leave you with this last tidbit of info... Manly way isn't the fastest way to do fowsc and this build definitely looks like it would give pugs more trouble.

prey monkie · Jan 15, 2010, 01:55 PM // 13:55

lol looks a lot like redway

Covah · Jan 15, 2010, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dag Z

Oh, did I mention it is faster than Manlyway?![/U][/B]

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/a...awxy/gw490.jpg

Manly only needs one spiker, you need 3.

prey monkie · Jan 15, 2010, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Covah

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/a...awxy/gw490.jpg

Manly only needs one spiker, you need 3.

T3/T4 is not puggable. were talking about puggable builds i guess

Eragon Zarroc · Jan 15, 2010, 02:58 PM // 14:58

idk, requires timing for the aftershocks with the earthshaker and that doesn't sound very pug friendly

+, screenies of faster times please

Essence Snow · Jan 15, 2010, 03:48 PM // 15:48

IMO it doesn't matter if it is faster or more puggable to give ya'll props on this. NICE JOB on being creative. I mean holy cow a hammer war and non SF eles in HM PvE! Kudos!

Para Scar · Jan 15, 2010, 03:52 PM // 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by prey monkie

T3/T4 is not puggable. were talking about puggable builds i guess

It still only needs 1 spiker.

Dag A · Jan 15, 2010, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Hey guys

, I decided to make a Guru Acc and explain a little bit more about this run, since I made it. The screen above is from a PUG run and I have never met any of those people, Besides Dag Z. Also this build has HUGE AoE damage making it so the balls don't have to be perfect. Also this is as fast or faster as manly way so I dont know where you guys are getting this idea that it isnt? considering you have never tried it lol. This build is PUG friendly in the sense that every Warrior In ToA is running around with his little sword but Warriors that have played the game and have more expierence with theirs should have all the skills needed. Also for the ele spikers its the same thing because not everyone has an Ele that they have actually played and have all the skills for. Bottom line is, this build is or faster than Manly Spike, Mildly Pug Friendly, And its a nice refreshment from 2 wars and MoP.

And Also to you people arguing about the only needed 1 spiker, this build was not even close to being intended for speed, it was made for having fun, and as the result it was faster than manly spike. And In the screenshot I am Vigarde Bloodwrath cause I usually only play ele spiker.

P.S: A Good Warrior and 2 Ele's helps a ton. And Warrior Must call target

Also why does Rit Need PvE skills?

There is really no need but do what you wish cause all EoE Needs is spirits and splinter :P.

Andemius · Jan 15, 2010, 04:09 PM // 16:09

seems like it'd be harder to pug to me, in any case i imagine this will die when the SF nerf appears

Schnellburg · Jan 15, 2010, 04:41 PM // 16:41

This is just a modified Redway build. Red Phyve from SCAR created builds that could farm every area/dungeon using 3-4 Eles with Ether Prism, a tank, and a Monk. Builds don't look much different then his. But congrats none the less.

T3 is puggable if you can convince them you can do it, but even then good luck getting them to believe you.

Edit: Here is the link to redway fyi. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/k...t10400884.html